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		<title>By: beenthere</title>
		<link>http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/12/12/the-ideology-of-climate-change/#comment-42713</link>
		<dc:creator>beenthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the above post:

"To initiate a comprehensive process that not only addresses the symptoms of Global Warming, but also addresses the core causes, &lt;b&gt;including those causes that are naturally produced,&lt;/b&gt;..."

Check out this site &lt;a href="http://www.greentoots.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;www.greentoots.com&lt;/a&gt; where it appears they are trying to do just that by capturing the Methane outgassing of both humans &#38; cows...? Seems a bit extreme to me but still an interesting concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the above post:</p>
<p>&#8220;To initiate a comprehensive process that not only addresses the symptoms of Global Warming, but also addresses the core causes, <b>including those causes that are naturally produced,</b>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Check out this site <a href="http://www.greentoots.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.greentoots.com</a> where it appears they are trying to do just that by capturing the Methane outgassing of both humans &amp; cows&#8230;? Seems a bit extreme to me but still an interesting concept.</p>
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		<title>By: jamesbdunn</title>
		<link>http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/12/12/the-ideology-of-climate-change/#comment-40750</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesbdunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Self-Funding method to "Reverse" Global Warming
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=224 

The problems with most solutions proposed for controlling Global Warming are:

the expense and the requirement for on-going funding 
high risk of damage to the environment 
ineffective nature of proposal 
narrow focus of proposal, not allowing for collateral and beneficial enterprise to develop 
foreseeable health hazards 
inability to attain multilateral support of all nations

To initiate a comprehensive process that not only addresses the symptoms of Global Warming, but also addresses the core causes, including those causes that are naturally produced, a network must be put into place that eliminates political corruption by greedy special interest groups that would otherwise doom humanity to a largely lifeless world.

The Citizens of the United States require implementation of State representation, including ALL states, by a large and diverse Ethical Oversight Committee composed only of doctors of science, to ensure the security of peoples Freedoms, to manage NSA operations and develop related technologies, and to determine how the information collected and derived by the NSA shall best be used as it relates to our Freedoms and Security, and to absolutely restrict this information from any other purpose.

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=57 

Establish a space based solar energy collection and conversion system to generate an excess of abundant clean energy for the world. Minimize the need for fossil fuels by using solar energy to generate cheap hydrogen to power fuel cells and engines. Providing cheap electrical energy to the world allows for hydrogen and water to be extracted locally anywhere on the planet: 

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=5 

Use the sale of power to fund the Space Elevator, thus reducing the cost of shipping and transportation to/from orbit to 10% of current costs; thus making access to space available to virtually anyone. A side benefit will be the many startup industries that capitalize on the mass production of carbon nanotubes. 

Vehicle strengths can increase hundreds of times over present vehicles while weighing significantly less. Vehicles can potentially impact at up to 20 mph without any significant damage. Mountain climbing ropes can be reduced in size to the size of a string and be stronger than present ropes; allowing for lighter pack loads and longer ropes. A 1200 pound Harley Davidson could be made to weigh less than 200 pounds; while being considerably stronger and more powerful. Commercial airliners could have ballistic parachutes which automatically deploy to save the lives of passengers. Buildings can be produced which can withstand the strongest of earthquakes. Skyscrapers a thousand stories tall. Diamond cable saws capable of cutting up asteroids for mining. Earth boring machine cutting heads that are much stronger, more efficient, lighter, and more versatile. Allowing for subterrainian habitat development; here on Earth, the Moon, Mars, large asteroids, and other planets and their moons. A woven sheet of nanotubes and bonding agent would line the caverns to provide air tight living spaces. Orbiting and transiting space habitat structures large enough to hold thousands of inhabitants including their systems for being self-sufficient. Computer and cell phone cases that are virtually indestructible; yet lighter than anything we currently have: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=4 

Develop space-based industry to further technological developments and provide greater employment through economic growth: 

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=6 

Create a low-cost fuel free orbiting service vehicle to provide for orbiting commercial laboratories, service vehicles for orbiting instrumentation and equipment, habitats, tow vehicles, Earth to Moon transports, repair platforms, ... 

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=194 

Systematically cleanup orbiting space debris and force nations to be accountable for contributing to space debris: 

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=67 

Establish a global Weather Control System (WCS) to Reverse and provide active control over Global Warming and rebuild the glaciers, control the winds in the vicinity of erupting volcanos, manage predictable rainfall for agriculture, eliminate severe weather and the resulting damage, promote responsible ecological controls, ... 

The world revenue spent and lost outside of intent because of weather phenomena approaches 1 Trillion dollars annually. The total weather control system is a fraction of this cost and can be funded through the sale of power and fractional royalties from space based industry developments. 

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=2 

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=81 

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=68 

Through this series of processes we can quickly transition from a species dependent upon our natural environment, to a species that becomes a responsible part of our environment and provide the means to support the ever growing human populations. While taking an active part in preserving our ecology and ensuring our grandchildren will experience the richly diverse life we presently enjoy; and perhaps a world with greater diversity and wonders not yet imagined. 

In 1776 there were less than 700 million people worldwide. The second of two people living to be 100 years old would have seen 1976 and a population of over 3,000 million (3 billion) people; a growth of 4.3 times as many people in 2 peoples lifetimes. Presently, there are over 6.7 billion people; the world population has doubled in less than 30 years. We can fully expect there to be at least 35 billion people by 2076. Medicine and food supply technologies improve, people naturally live longer, what will life be like unless we provide a habitat, interesting employment, and business opportunities? 

Currently, China uses people with shovels and rakes to process their sewage, because labor is so cheap. What will our grandchildrens lives be like if we do not push our horizons above that of the Earth? 

Within just 50 years, it is expected that between 1/3 and 1/2 of all known species of plants and animals will verge upon extinction due to salt water encroachment of coastal wetlands. How do we plan to help maintain our ecological diversity to provide natural food chain stability? Already, corn and potato crops are documented to be at risk worldwide. Over 6 million people currently starve annually; it can be shown that almost 30 million people will starve annually by 2076 unless we act diligently in the present. 

We must have a comprehensive system that provides for the needs of our small world. Allowing us to have more, not less. Allowing our population to grow; responsibly.

Initiate a comprehensive self-funded system to actively reverse Global Warming, provide for a diverse ecology, provide abundant clean power, control extreme weather, and provide for our ever growing world poplulation.

To find &#38; email your specific Congressmen and Senators:

Your State's Congressmen Your States' Senators
To email Congressman all across the United States:

http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htmTo talk directly with the staff of your representatives:

(202) 225-3121 for the House 
(202) 224-3121 for the Senate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Self-Funding method to &#8220;Reverse&#8221; Global Warming<br />
<a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=224" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=224</a> </p>
<p>The problems with most solutions proposed for controlling Global Warming are:</p>
<p>the expense and the requirement for on-going funding<br />
high risk of damage to the environment<br />
ineffective nature of proposal<br />
narrow focus of proposal, not allowing for collateral and beneficial enterprise to develop<br />
foreseeable health hazards<br />
inability to attain multilateral support of all nations</p>
<p>To initiate a comprehensive process that not only addresses the symptoms of Global Warming, but also addresses the core causes, including those causes that are naturally produced, a network must be put into place that eliminates political corruption by greedy special interest groups that would otherwise doom humanity to a largely lifeless world.</p>
<p>The Citizens of the United States require implementation of State representation, including ALL states, by a large and diverse Ethical Oversight Committee composed only of doctors of science, to ensure the security of peoples Freedoms, to manage NSA operations and develop related technologies, and to determine how the information collected and derived by the NSA shall best be used as it relates to our Freedoms and Security, and to absolutely restrict this information from any other purpose.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=57" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=57</a> </p>
<p>Establish a space based solar energy collection and conversion system to generate an excess of abundant clean energy for the world. Minimize the need for fossil fuels by using solar energy to generate cheap hydrogen to power fuel cells and engines. Providing cheap electrical energy to the world allows for hydrogen and water to be extracted locally anywhere on the planet: </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=5" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=5</a> </p>
<p>Use the sale of power to fund the Space Elevator, thus reducing the cost of shipping and transportation to/from orbit to 10% of current costs; thus making access to space available to virtually anyone. A side benefit will be the many startup industries that capitalize on the mass production of carbon nanotubes. </p>
<p>Vehicle strengths can increase hundreds of times over present vehicles while weighing significantly less. Vehicles can potentially impact at up to 20 mph without any significant damage. Mountain climbing ropes can be reduced in size to the size of a string and be stronger than present ropes; allowing for lighter pack loads and longer ropes. A 1200 pound Harley Davidson could be made to weigh less than 200 pounds; while being considerably stronger and more powerful. Commercial airliners could have ballistic parachutes which automatically deploy to save the lives of passengers. Buildings can be produced which can withstand the strongest of earthquakes. Skyscrapers a thousand stories tall. Diamond cable saws capable of cutting up asteroids for mining. Earth boring machine cutting heads that are much stronger, more efficient, lighter, and more versatile. Allowing for subterrainian habitat development; here on Earth, the Moon, Mars, large asteroids, and other planets and their moons. A woven sheet of nanotubes and bonding agent would line the caverns to provide air tight living spaces. Orbiting and transiting space habitat structures large enough to hold thousands of inhabitants including their systems for being self-sufficient. Computer and cell phone cases that are virtually indestructible; yet lighter than anything we currently have: <a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=4" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=4</a> </p>
<p>Develop space-based industry to further technological developments and provide greater employment through economic growth: </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=6" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=6</a> </p>
<p>Create a low-cost fuel free orbiting service vehicle to provide for orbiting commercial laboratories, service vehicles for orbiting instrumentation and equipment, habitats, tow vehicles, Earth to Moon transports, repair platforms, &#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=194" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=194</a> </p>
<p>Systematically cleanup orbiting space debris and force nations to be accountable for contributing to space debris: </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=67" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=67</a> </p>
<p>Establish a global Weather Control System (WCS) to Reverse and provide active control over Global Warming and rebuild the glaciers, control the winds in the vicinity of erupting volcanos, manage predictable rainfall for agriculture, eliminate severe weather and the resulting damage, promote responsible ecological controls, &#8230; </p>
<p>The world revenue spent and lost outside of intent because of weather phenomena approaches 1 Trillion dollars annually. The total weather control system is a fraction of this cost and can be funded through the sale of power and fractional royalties from space based industry developments. </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=2" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=2</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=81" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=81</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=68" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=68</a> </p>
<p>Through this series of processes we can quickly transition from a species dependent upon our natural environment, to a species that becomes a responsible part of our environment and provide the means to support the ever growing human populations. While taking an active part in preserving our ecology and ensuring our grandchildren will experience the richly diverse life we presently enjoy; and perhaps a world with greater diversity and wonders not yet imagined. </p>
<p>In 1776 there were less than 700 million people worldwide. The second of two people living to be 100 years old would have seen 1976 and a population of over 3,000 million (3 billion) people; a growth of 4.3 times as many people in 2 peoples lifetimes. Presently, there are over 6.7 billion people; the world population has doubled in less than 30 years. We can fully expect there to be at least 35 billion people by 2076. Medicine and food supply technologies improve, people naturally live longer, what will life be like unless we provide a habitat, interesting employment, and business opportunities? </p>
<p>Currently, China uses people with shovels and rakes to process their sewage, because labor is so cheap. What will our grandchildrens lives be like if we do not push our horizons above that of the Earth? </p>
<p>Within just 50 years, it is expected that between 1/3 and 1/2 of all known species of plants and animals will verge upon extinction due to salt water encroachment of coastal wetlands. How do we plan to help maintain our ecological diversity to provide natural food chain stability? Already, corn and potato crops are documented to be at risk worldwide. Over 6 million people currently starve annually; it can be shown that almost 30 million people will starve annually by 2076 unless we act diligently in the present. </p>
<p>We must have a comprehensive system that provides for the needs of our small world. Allowing us to have more, not less. Allowing our population to grow; responsibly.</p>
<p>Initiate a comprehensive self-funded system to actively reverse Global Warming, provide for a diverse ecology, provide abundant clean power, control extreme weather, and provide for our ever growing world poplulation.</p>
<p>To find &amp; email your specific Congressmen and Senators:</p>
<p>Your State&#8217;s Congressmen Your States&#8217; Senators<br />
To email Congressman all across the United States:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htmTo" rel="nofollow">http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htmTo</a> talk directly with the staff of your representatives:</p>
<p>(202) 225-3121 for the House<br />
(202) 224-3121 for the Senate</p>
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		<title>By: dbroom</title>
		<link>http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/12/12/the-ideology-of-climate-change/#comment-40659</link>
		<dc:creator>dbroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entirely appreciate this post. The Pope's statement focused primarily on the "traditional" family and how that family is the only thing that can provide a "moral" education to children, and therefore the only thing that can bring "peace" to Earth.  

Along with that message came the few words he had about Climate Change.  I agree with you that the coverage of the Pontiff's comments are seriously skewed to toward the sensational. But since the Bali talks are wrapping up this week it is not surprising that any comment related to climate are brought to the fore. 

I sincerely share your acknowledgment of the irony in the Pope calling for a dialog on climate change devoid of ideology.  

I'm dismayed, however, that your link to the White House press release, which you played as some kind of evidence that our president is no longer a climate change denier, is actually from 2001. June, 2001. More than six years ago, and in the first months of his administration.  These are the words of the pre-9/11 Bush.  

Perhaps you should look at the present-day revelations of the actions of the Bush administration since that fluffy speech he made in 2001:

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1653

You've convinced me that the Pope is not a rampant climate-change denier, but your (almost off-the-cuff) inclusion of Bush as "no longer among them" brought doubt to your entire thesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entirely appreciate this post. The Pope&#8217;s statement focused primarily on the &#8220;traditional&#8221; family and how that family is the only thing that can provide a &#8220;moral&#8221; education to children, and therefore the only thing that can bring &#8220;peace&#8221; to Earth.  </p>
<p>Along with that message came the few words he had about Climate Change.  I agree with you that the coverage of the Pontiff&#8217;s comments are seriously skewed to toward the sensational. But since the Bali talks are wrapping up this week it is not surprising that any comment related to climate are brought to the fore. </p>
<p>I sincerely share your acknowledgment of the irony in the Pope calling for a dialog on climate change devoid of ideology.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m dismayed, however, that your link to the White House press release, which you played as some kind of evidence that our president is no longer a climate change denier, is actually from 2001. June, 2001. More than six years ago, and in the first months of his administration.  These are the words of the pre-9/11 Bush.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you should look at the present-day revelations of the actions of the Bush administration since that fluffy speech he made in 2001:</p>
<p><a href="http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1653" rel="nofollow">http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1653</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;ve convinced me that the Pope is not a rampant climate-change denier, but your (almost off-the-cuff) inclusion of Bush as &#8220;no longer among them&#8221; brought doubt to your entire thesis.</p>
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		<title>By: memilio</title>
		<link>http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/12/12/the-ideology-of-climate-change/#comment-40616</link>
		<dc:creator>memilio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I suppose the global warming on Mars is somehow our fault as well?  Or perhaps it's just a coincidence?  

What happened to the coming ice age that scientists warned us of when I was growing up?  Perhaps in another 30 years (or less), we'll be right back to the "global cooling" again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I suppose the global warming on Mars is somehow our fault as well?  Or perhaps it&#8217;s just a coincidence?  </p>
<p>What happened to the coming ice age that scientists warned us of when I was growing up?  Perhaps in another 30 years (or less), we&#8217;ll be right back to the &#8220;global cooling&#8221; again.</p>
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